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Phil_Webster Posts: 3,318
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15/04/24 - 17:49 #1477
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mfr wrote: »
I was specifically arguing that two or three people being given airtime on Feedback (which you held up as significant, despite your subsequent rant about the programme) was not necessarily indicative of a groundswell of opinion among R4E listeners against the schedule changes. Neither you nor I can assert that as we simply don't know at this point.
If two or three people have been given airtime on Feedback, then it's highly unlikely that only those two or three people wrote to Feedback about it. Feedback normally reacts to issues where it receives a substantial level of correspondence and picks out a representative sample.
If there had been a large body of opinion against the move on social media or as a petition I would have expected the mainstream media to have picked up on it.
So you appear to be saying that anyone who has an issue with BBC programmes or policy is wasting their time writing to Feedback - they'd be better off posting about it on social media and waiting for the mainstream media to pick it up.
If that's true, then I think it's perverse. Feedback was set up by the BBC specifically as a conduit to get listeners' reactions to their output. If the BBC is ignoring listeners' reactions on Feedback in favour of campaigns on social media or in the mainstream media, they might as well shut Feedback down.
Which was why Feedback was so effective with Roger Bolton at the helm, as you and others have pointed out.
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16/04/24 - 07:15 #1478
Radio 4 on 603 khz MW has now closed in the Newcastle area with a "retune" loop playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z3kYvzXfEs
It seems to be the same for all nine MW transmitters in the UK.
It's a loss. I know I can retune to FM but I kept a small portable radio under my pillow to listen to the station at night. Listening on FM I need to pull out the aerial slightly which isn't ideal.
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commseng Posts: 5,573
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16/04/24 - 07:37 #1479
The R4 MW closures have been well discussed over in the AM Death Watch thread. Yes they are all now off programme service and will be turned off completely at the end of the month.
You have two weeks to be lulled to sleep by the repeating nature of the loops - you could try counting them........2
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16/04/24 - 12:47 #1480
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Did anyone just hear the Weather? It was the weather forecast at 7:57 this morning on 14/4.
The presenter seemed to be having some kind of breakdown or panic attack. They cut it short and Paddy O’Connell was hurriedly wheeled out to do a trailer for BH.
It was quite unsettling as the presenter sounded distressed.For anyone worried here's what happened https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/apr/15/bbc-radio-4-weather-presenter-simon-king-gasp-for-breath
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16/04/24 - 15:06 edited 16/04/24 - 15:10 #1481
Robbie01 wrote: »
Radio 4 on 603 khz MW has now closed in the Newcastle area with a "retune" loop playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z3kYvzXfEs
It seems to be the same for all nine MW transmitters in the UK.
It's a loss. I know I can retune to FM but I kept a small portable radio under my pillow to listen to the station at night. Listening on FM I need to pull out the aerial slightly which isn't ideal.
I have to point out that you don’t need to do this - this is what pillow speakers were invented for. Put your radio on your night stand where the aerial doesn’t matter, and just use the speaker under your pillow plugged into the headphone Jack.
https://www.techradar.com/best/under-pillow-speakers3
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16/04/24 - 17:08 #1482
Three cheers! Milton Jones is back on Radio 4 tonight at 6.30pm.
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16/04/24 - 21:00 #1483
briggsy1 wrote: »
Three cheers! Milton Jones is back on Radio 4 tonight at 6.30pm.
I'll give three cheers if it means the end of the endlessly repeated trailer for this show, although now it'll just be amended to say 'listen now on BBC Sounds'
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Guy_Barry Posts: 3,589
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17/04/24 - 08:28 #1484
briggsy1 wrote: »
Three cheers! Milton Jones is back on Radio 4 tonight at 6.30pm.
Yes, excellent! I'm still laughing at this joke:
"I helped him get an A in English"
"Unfortunately English isn't spelt with an A"I always think it would make a good programme for children, even though it isn't specifically aimed at them. I'd have loved it when I was seven years old.
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Guy_Barry Posts: 3,589
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18/04/24 - 15:00 #1485
Cusack wrote: »
Welsh-lad wrote: »
Did anyone just hear the Weather? It was the weather forecast at 7:57 this morning on 14/4.
The presenter seemed to be having some kind of breakdown or panic attack. They cut it short and Paddy O’Connell was hurriedly wheeled out to do a trailer for BH.
It was quite unsettling as the presenter sounded distressed.For anyone worried here's what happened https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/apr/15/bbc-radio-4-weather-presenter-simon-king-gasp-for-breath
There was an item about this at the end of today's Feedback, about six minutes from the end, and Simon King (the weather forecaster in question) was interviewed about it. Should be available on Sounds in a few minutes.
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Guy_Barry Posts: 3,589
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19/04/24 - 07:56 #1486
Last ever Now Show is at 6.30pm tonight. Steve and Hugh were interviewed about it on Today around 8.25am. Hankies at the ready.
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20/04/24 - 09:35 #1487
I won't miss it. The only 6.30 comedy on rotation I actively switch off.
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20/04/24 - 09:47 edited 20/04/24 - 09:50 #1488
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I won't miss it. The only 6.30 comedy on rotation I actively switch off.
Well I enjoyed the final edition last night. Maybe its time had come but I still don't know if I'll miss it - it depends on they're going to replace it with.
I note that next week, rather than a new series of The News Quiz as I was expecting, Dead Ringers is returning. This suggests to me that they may be planning to increase the number of series of Dead Ringers per year from the current one-and-a-half (normally one series around June and two or three Christmas specials). If that's the case it'll be excellent news.
Also does anyone know what happened with those six pilots they broadcast in the Friday 6.30 slot last summer? I think someone in this thread said that "TL;DR" was going to be commissioned for a full series, but I don't know if that's just as a six-week summer filler or if it'll fill the slot more frequently. Are any of the others going to be recommissioned?
Nice to know that Steve Punt and Hugh Dennis aren't leaving Radio 4, anyway. Their new series Routemasters (to be broadcast in the autumn) sounds as though it could be a lot of fun.
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20/04/24 - 11:33 #1489
Sadly I won't miss The Now Show (repeat on as I type). The major losses of a few years ago, a change in emphasis and other things means it just isn't as funny in my view and is yes sorry a bit too PC now.
Annoying Z team for Today today - Simon Jack, who y'know'd and erm'd his way through the whole thing, and Martha.
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20/04/24 - 15:08 #1490
Something I've just noticed about the scheduling of Yesterday in Parliament. Parliament sat yesterday so you'd have expected it to appear this morning, and indeed Today on Radio 4 contained the usual abridged version. But it's nowhere in today's Radio 4 Extra schedule. Instead, there's an episode on Monday at 9am, which I presume must be a report on Friday's proceedings.
Shouldn't they retitle it to Three Days Ago in Parliament?
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20/04/24 - 17:07 #1491
Vexille1 wrote: »
Sadly I won't miss The Now Show (repeat on as I type). The major losses of a few years ago, a change in emphasis and other things means it just isn't as funny in my view and is yes sorry a bit too PC now.
Aye. "Losing" Jon Holmes & Mitch Benn gutted it for me. I'm surprised it limped along for so long after that
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20/04/24 - 17:13 #1492
platelet wrote: »
Vexille1 wrote: »
Sadly I won't miss The Now Show (repeat on as I type). The major losses of a few years ago, a change in emphasis and other things means it just isn't as funny in my view and is yes sorry a bit too PC now.
Aye. "Losing" Jon Holmes & Mitch Benn gutted it for me. I'm surprised it limped along for so long after that
Nice that they did guest appearances on the final series.
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Sidney Posts: 194
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20/04/24 - 20:07 #1493
The breathy presentation on this Joni Mitchell series makes it unlistenable for us. Dreadful.
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20/04/24 - 20:17 #1494
Vexille1 wrote: »
Sadly I won't miss The Now Show (repeat on as I type). The major losses of a few years ago, a change in emphasis and other things means it just isn't as funny in my view and is yes sorry a bit too PC now.
Annoying Z team for Today today - Simon Jack, who y'know'd and erm'd his way through the whole thing, and Martha.
It has been pretty dreadful in recent years. The comedians and the music have been embarrassingly bad. For example. The woman comedian yesterday was awful as was the song. I used to listen to the start and the last few minutes but they fouled that up by shifting the unfunny song to the end of the programme.
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20/04/24 - 20:24 #1495
Sidney wrote: »
Vexille1 wrote: »
Sadly I won't miss The Now Show (repeat on as I type). The major losses of a few years ago, a change in emphasis and other things means it just isn't as funny in my view and is yes sorry a bit too PC now.
Annoying Z team for Today today - Simon Jack, who y'know'd and erm'd his way through the whole thing, and Martha.
It has been pretty dreadful in recent years. The comedians and the music have been embarrassingly bad. For example. The woman comedian yesterday was awful as was the song. I used to listen to the start and the last few minutes but they fouled that up by shifting the unfunny song to the end of the programme.
The best bit yesterday was in the middle where Steve and Hugh went through the last 25 years with the help of Rory Bremner. I wish they could have expanded it to the whole show!
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21/04/24 - 16:51 edited 21/04/24 - 16:51 #1496
Is there going to be another topical comedy show to replace this in rotation with The News Quiz and Dead Ringers?
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21/04/24 - 16:58 edited 21/04/24 - 17:00 #1497
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Is there going to be another topical comedy show to replace this in rotation with The News Quiz and Dead Ringers?
I speculated about this in https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/comment/104512794#Comment_104512794 above.
It's already been confirmed that Catherine Bohart's "TL;DR" (which was one of the six topical comedy pilots broadcast last summer) has been commissioned for a full series this year. However I don't know whether that's purely as a summer filler or more frequently throughout the year.
I also suggested that the number of programmes per year of Dead Ringers may be increasing, as up until now there's only been one six-part series in early summer and two or three specials at Christmas. The fact that Dead Ringers is coming back next week rather than in June may be confirmation of this, but I don't know - although I very much hope so!
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21/04/24 - 20:26 #1498
I'm really at a loss to understand why anyone thinks that the now show coming coming to an end is a good thing?
Maybe I'm a bit too woke, and a bit too lefty, and because I live in an area many hundreds of miles from the SE of England being one of those provincial types I can't possibly "get it"?Options
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23/04/24 - 06:06 #1499
After the abridged version of Yesterday in Parliament on Today this morning, Justin Webb announced that there would be more "at 8.30 on Radio 4 Digital", thus getting both the time and the network wrong.
Not much point in creating a new slot for it if they don't publicize it correctly!
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23/04/24 - 11:32 #1500
It was entertaining listening to Mishal Husain this morning on the Today programme interviewing/ grilling Michael Tomlinson a government minister wheeled in to discuss the Rwanda bill. Didn't quite descend into a barney but not far off it. The minister was clearly becoming really tetchy and was struggling to keep his cool while Husain kept on giving him a hard time !
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23/04/24 - 13:29 #1501
Sid Law wrote: »
I'm really at a loss to understand why anyone thinks that the now show coming coming to an end is a good thing?
Maybe I'm a bit too woke, and a bit too lefty, and because I live in an area many hundreds of miles from the SE of England being one of those provincial types I can't possibly "get it"?I don't think I've seen anyone saying it's a good thing that it's ended. It's more a "Meh" response, given the show has been pretty weak for the last eight years
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